Talk:Cordelia/@comment-83.134.209.135-20151112170932/@comment-109.156.91.84-20160205154825

i feel like this is kind of a valid point and until we know her backstory we'll never really be able to find out why she's abusive but i think the fact is that even if she had a horrible childhood and her parents neglected her and even if we give her the liberty of saying that is was all either karlheinz or her parents that "made" her this way, she's still abusive. she still abused laito. she still neglected and traumatised kanato. she still abused ayato. tragic backstory or not, she's abusive and horrible to her children and i hate her with everything i have because of it. abusing your children is inexcusable. traumatising your children is inexcusable. getting "turned on" by your son's singing voice and having incestuous relations with your youngest child is inexcusable (and also disgustingly pedophilic).

i dunno you make a good point and karlheinz is absolutely terrible but i feel like you're trying to excuse what cordelia is and that doesn't sit well with me lmao